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PostSubject: New Pipes for me on C50T   Thu May 03, 2012 10:05 am

Finally got all the gremlins sorted and got the new pipes fitted, look and sound great.

The only concern is that due to the larger diameter of the pipes the rear side cover is now pretty close to the heatsheild on the pie, it's not touching but close.

Anyone had any issues with their aftermarket pipes melting anything?
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Thu May 03, 2012 11:08 am

What pipes have you put on?
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Thu May 03, 2012 2:15 pm

I have fitted wider diameter pipes too. The only thing they have melted so far is my textile trousers. One of the plastic panels comes quite close to the exhaust now, but it has silver heat resistant tape under it and I haven't noticed any heat damage
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Thu May 03, 2012 2:38 pm

I agree with you on the tape Joe mine has the silver heat tape on and up to now no burns or melting.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Thu May 03, 2012 8:26 pm

ozrider wrote:
Anyone had any issues with their aftermarket pipes melting anything?



After this left a lot of rubber on my aftermarkets I have been a bit more careful! Actually I noticed yesterday that the Intruder's fan comes on often in town traffic and I can really feel the heat on my leg - perhaps my short pipes increase the engine temp a bit!
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Thu May 03, 2012 9:07 pm

Bluesman wrote:
perhaps my short pipes increase the engine temp a bit!
If it's running very lean then that is a possibility.

I did consider if there would be any increase from your single walled pipes as opposed to a dual wall but that wouldn't be an issue as the stock pipe is a single walled pipe at the header to begin with anyway with an outer chromed guard at the header which in turn would be stopping heat getting away as fast as one without it. Also because your pipes are short and fat the flow out should be excellent. Obviously you notice extra heat over stock around the feet and legs but that is only because you are not being guarded from the heat.

These bikes do generally run with the fan a lot anyway, especially around town.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Thu May 03, 2012 10:09 pm

At least there's no temp gauge to worry about - I had a Yamaha XJ6 a couple of years ago with a temp gauge that showed 106 degrees when the fan cut in - got me paranoid waiting for the whirr when it got to 105!! My SV seems to run much cooler in town around 80 - V-Twin vs IL4 perhaps. The Intruder does seem to kick the fan in a lot I agree. Any idea what temp ?
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Fri May 04, 2012 7:39 am

Bought some Heat Shield Tape, I'll put it on the exposed part of the cover, it wont be seen anyway.

I'll take some pics soon.

CC, they are a local (Australian) supplier.....
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Fri May 04, 2012 8:38 pm

Pic's would be nice
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sat May 05, 2012 7:21 am

Eventually gave up waiting for the rain to stop and headed out for the big test ride.

Loud, loud, loud.....

Got onto a back stretch of road and opened it up.....bugger me, what a difference, where did all that extra power come from.

Guess it might have somthing to do with being more that twice the diameter of the original pipes with almost straight through mufflers.....



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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sat May 05, 2012 8:07 pm

ozrider wrote:
Finally got all the gremlins sorted and got the new pipes fitted, look and sound great.

The only concern is that due to the larger diameter of the pipes the rear side cover is now pretty close to the heatsheild on the pie, it's not touching but close.

As long as the pipe doesn't touch the pastry, your pie should be fine but don't go burning it Oz, especially if it's steak and kidney, thats my favourite
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sat May 05, 2012 8:36 pm

Be good to get a bit of info on those pipes and a short sound video so Mr I can add it to his exhaust thread, maybe
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sat May 05, 2012 8:45 pm

Twojobmick wrote:
ozrider wrote:
Finally got all the gremlins sorted and got the new pipes fitted, look and sound great.

The only concern is that due to the larger diameter of the pipes the rear side cover is now pretty close to the heatsheild on the pie, it's not touching but close.

As long as the pipe doesn't touch the pastry, your pie should be fine but don't go burning it Oz, especially if it's steak and kidney, thats my favourite
steak and kidney puddings my favourite home made if possible i had home made meet and potatoe pie tonight wich was bluddy nice but steak and kidney pudding god mouth watering vision going blerd starting to drible better go and look at another post
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sat May 05, 2012 9:31 pm

Those pipes look very interesting - almost like short cuts with long extensions pushed in.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sun May 06, 2012 2:27 pm

Very nice looking

captain crash wrote:
Be good to get a bit of info on those pipes and a
short sound video so Mr I can add it to his exhaust thread,
maybe
Would be great to get a video clip as Crash says

Bluesman wrote:
Those pipes look very interesting - almost like short cuts with long extensions pushed in.
Yes they really do.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sun May 06, 2012 4:33 pm

Nice looking ride Brian you must be made up now.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sun May 06, 2012 11:11 pm

Bluesman wrote:
Those pipes look very interesting - almost like short cuts with long extensions pushed in.

They do in the photos. The headers have the headshield over them which also cover the front edge of the muffler assembly. The pipes are almost the same diameter as the mufflers.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Mon May 07, 2012 7:14 am

looks nice brian
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ozrider
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sun May 13, 2012 8:48 am

Pipes are all fitted and appear to be all fine.

They make an annoying whistle / chirping noise though, especially when you throttle when revving it.

Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sun May 13, 2012 12:05 pm

check its gas tight all the way along

Mine were a bit burbly to start off, but once the soot coated the inside the sound changed. Bluesman will tell you the same
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sun May 13, 2012 1:07 pm

Bunso Steel wrote:
check its gas tight all the way along
Agreed
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Sun May 13, 2012 6:56 pm

Bunso Steel wrote:
Mine were a bit burbly to start off, but once the soot coated the inside the sound changed. Bluesman will tell you the same

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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Mon May 14, 2012 11:44 am

Yep whistles only ever mean one thing, air be blown out of where it shouldn't be coming from
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Mon May 14, 2012 10:16 pm

Thanks all, I'll get some muffler paste today and seal the pipe from the front pipe into the muffler. Rear is welded.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Tue May 15, 2012 10:22 pm

ozrider wrote:
Thanks all, I'll get some muffler paste today and seal the pipe from the front pipe into the muffler. Rear is welded.

Done it, still whistling....bugger. I reckon it needs new crush seals at the headers, I'll get the dealer to do it as I don't want to overtighten anything.

If they F$ck it up they own it...


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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Tue May 15, 2012 10:40 pm

Are the baffles in or out when you get the whistling noise?

May help the lads diagnose your problem if you post a short vid
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Tue May 15, 2012 11:37 pm

Bunso Steel wrote:
Are the baffles in or out when you get the whistling noise?

May help the lads diagnose your problem if you post a short vid

Baffles are permenant, can't for the life of me figure out how to post a video. I'll work on it...
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Wed May 16, 2012 2:59 am

ozrider wrote:
Bunso Steel wrote:
Are the baffles in or out when you get the whistling noise?

May help the lads diagnose your problem if you post a short vid

Baffles are permenant, can't for the life of me figure out how to post a video. I'll work on it...

Crappy Video, sound doesn't pick it up well...

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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Wed May 16, 2012 5:03 am

To determine where a sound is coming from a tip I learnt years ago was to get a short (ish) length of hose pipe and stick one end to your ear and move the other end around the object to find out exactly where the noise is coming from.
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PostSubject: Re: New Pipes for me on C50T   Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:07 am

Short Video of me hooning back up my street....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JMKNmtUxFi8
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