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BigEd
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PostSubject: Restriced or not?    Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:59 pm

hi guys, i know   but i wana ask you all a  question/


just got my hands on m800 2007 with 7k on the clock.. i got it from the first owner. from a lady

now lets get to the point. she gave me all pappers from bike as well as restrict cert from suzuki garage from factory, stamped etc.



--> i drove the bike and i am sorry but how can i find out if the bike is restricted? the bike is going alright 140km/h (i didnt go faster anyway) and accerelating without problems. maybe i just dont know how to find out. is it the revs? or top speed thats being limited? or how can idetermine if she is restricted?

the lady ex-owner got no spare ecu or anything with bike, so i am sure if i wanna derestrict the bike i will have to spend extra money. actualy i will need to buy the derestricted ecu. i just think that the bike may be on full power but with the cert. that happend in many ocasions in here. but i wanna make sure. so asking someone with better knowledge will be the right choice.

i hope you dont mind answering my lame request.

and thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:46 am

Sorry I personally don't have an answer on how they are restricted but an email to suzuki uk will give that answer for sure or the garage that stamped the restriction cert. Someone will hopefully pop in with an answer tho, fingers crossed. As for the affects of restriction, I believe that restriction being in HP will reduce how quickly it gets up to speed and I believe top end may only be effected slightly if at all because on paper the bike should do 125mph but due to weight, size and aerodynamics will only reach about 110 - 115 on a good day anyway from stock
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:08 am

to be honest if she is restricted now, then i can imagine she will be pulling to 65mph faster then blade.. :))))


you have a very good point there,i should call the garage that stamped the cert and found out. if they remember. as it was on 1.07.2007 when they signed it.

or maybe someone with better knowledge will show up and tell me/us how to determine such a thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:28 am

Sorry wish I could help but I have never had anyone on site with a restricted Injection model so we are not best placed to help I am afraid.
If you follow this LINK you will find Suzuki UK's phone number and Email address, they are very helpful on any enquires and can at least tell you how that model is restricted as they issue the necessary parts to the garages. keep us informed please if you do follow up the enquiry.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:43 am

i will give a call to the garage today first, then i will visit suzuki in dublin. and if it wont work then i will post email or call Uk1. thank you for the links.

i will keep you updated, it can be usefull later for some other lads.

Ed
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:24 am

When I bought mine it came with a restricted ECU but with the full power ECU already fitted.  I'll have a look through my paperwork and see if I can find anything that might help
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:40 am

what u mean restricted but full ecu fitted?
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:48 am

Had been restricted, not was.

I have the restricted ECU and the full power ECU along with all the paperwork that does with it
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:58 pm

Yeh thank you for responds.

So after calling the garage who stamped that cert -> owner on holidays so they are closed Untill 15.08.

then i decided to call main irish suzuki distributor.. they cant give me orice in ECU as the suzuki is on holidays untill 05.08.. lol

so i called local garage. They cant tell me anything. But they only confirmed what captain crash said here. Limited will hp produce less acerelation power and it will take much more to reach top speeds which are also affected. Hm
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:02 pm

Forgot to say. New ecu aprox 800e just the part from suzuki.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:54 am

there is one ECU for sale for 60e.. but its from svs800 Boulevard 2007... is it the same engine? can someone confimr it? i believe it is.. if so i will just order one and forget about the restriction...
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:08 am

Hello Ed,
The VS boulevard has twin Makuni carbs and I know your M800 is fuel injected,,, I wouldn't be to sure that the ECU`s of the bikes will be compatible.
Part numbers are different and by the parts diagram the two units look different, the VS unit only has to control the ignition system and the M800 one also controls the fuelling, unless one of the other members knows more on the subject i wouldn't go for it mate,,,,you can look here and decide if its worth the gamble.

VS.........          http://www.ronayers.com/ELECTRICAL--C217188.aspx

M800...            http://www.ronayers.com/ELECTRICAL--C217239.aspx
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:12 am

yeh you are right.. they are different.. :(
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:37 am

If the bike is restricted by changing the ECU`s i would imagine that the two units will have different part numbers,, here is a link to a picture of a restricted ECU ( poor pic i know) you can make out some numbers onit,, maybe you can zoom in and get some numbers off it,, you can see one num quite clearly,,,and cross reference it with yours,,,,, if i were you Ed i would badger my local suzuki dealer and find out the information you need to be sure as to remidy your problem,,, if the workshop manager does not know get him to phone Suzuki up and find out,,, their parts department must order the restricted and unrestricted ECU`s in so get the parts department to give you both part numbers. If you end up haveing to buy a replacement you will probably find it cheaper to buy it from America, used or new,,, ask the other membersmany do without a problem,,, dave will probably vouch for that.  Good luck mate.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-VZ800-VZ-800-MARAUDER-RESTRICTED-CDI-ECU-CONTROL-UNIT-33BHP-/160687999621?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2569c04a85
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:02 am

seing this ebay link i know one thing... i will buy unlocked ECU and then sell the restricted for 150e.. at least to cover my cost.

i called 3 places yesterday.. suzuki on holidays.. nothing i can do.. i will try to contact  all spare parts shops in my local area and try my luck if they have it.

thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:05 am

chekc this out...

search this on ebay


07 Suzuki Marauder VZ800 800 IGNITER CDI IGNITOR IGNITION MODULE

i am sure this will fit.


yes it is.. 32920-39G20

so i am ordering that..

it cost 69 dollars... what a steal... so now just wait for the final charge + postal.. an then delivery time... so i am sorted. hopefully.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:45 am

good on you, bsrgain!
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:51 am

Ha ha,, looks like you are gunna be in proffit,,, pleased for you Ed well done.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:10 pm

Well found,always pays to look around.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:47 pm

i didnt wanna profit here, i wanted just a little more Hp from that little girl... :)

thank you all.... i am getting closer to 7 days anniversary... for the pics Wink

take care for now.. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:36 pm

Last question... where can i found the ECU on the bike? Is it any difficult to reach?
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:00 pm

http://www.suzuki800.com/t448-maintenance-manuals-links-pdfs-library
Ed
Go here in the forum and get the manual to keep yourself in touch with the bike.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:44 pm

just to be on the safe side.. ecu is under the right side plastic frame cover... correct?
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:07 am

There is one hex key bolt on top of the plastic casing by the seat, undo that and the case is just held in by lugs and will pull off.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:13 am

that sounds like 5 min job all in one...
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:38 am

It is, the ecu is just behind it and has a metal strap that you unbolt and then just pull the couple of plug wires out and swap it over.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:07 am

thank you Mr. Intruder. now i can just dream, untill the ECU arrive--> what the difference will be driving that lady on fully powa.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:26 am

"07 Suzuki Marauder VZ800 800 IGNITER CDI IGNITOR IGNITION MODULE"
Hey BigEd, This is not the ECU just the spark amplifier. I am not sure if you have order the right thing there.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:45 am

Well its paid already..

and acording the list this is the control unit for FI. two-bears posted a link with restricted one so i followed and i found unrestricted. the same part and checked the catalogue number if its correct.

i am 99,99% positive that thats the right item, but i may be wrong -the part i bought is exactly the same as described in the link form Two-bears and the part has numbers 3290-39G20 on it and 2 plugs. so i am confused now



or tell me catalogue number of item you think that is the ECU

i cant post links but there are in this topic.. few posts before.

search on ebay this item:
Suzuki Intruder 800 Igniter CDI ECU NEW Genuine ---> its actualy located in UK and price is 90£ or best offer. i ordered the same one but with the right numbers on them. 39G20


taken of part list - if this is the one then i have ordered correct part

16-232920-39G20CONTROL UNIT,FI1(MODEL K5 E33MODEL K6/K7)$791.62
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:09 am

Sorry about the panic, I was going from the description. An ignite is normally just a spark amplifier rather than the ECU. Looking at the wiring diagram fro the M800 it appears that the spark is actually driven by the ECU.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:10 am

no panic.. i just wanna be sure as well... you know... still cheap doesnt mean throwing money out... at least i know i have the correct part.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:11 pm

SO today i recieved THE unrestricted ECU --> i was stumped with 35€ taxes to be paid --> VAT... shite.. but the worst is to come... i was like ok lets do it. the ECU replacement took me all in one 2 mins. but i noticed that nobody ever unscrew it before as the bolts were absolutely untouched, i said to myself fuck that look weird, but maybe it came from the factory with restricted ECU... but as you guys can think now, the bike came with cert and papers about being restricted but reality was different.. :( ECU make no difference and i have spend over 100€ on ECU replacement... :( bad luck tho... so unrestricted bike with restriction pappers, nothing new here in IE... the garage wanted to save € for the ECU and thye have made only pappers...

well now i am waiting for the fender extender and puig screen to arrive.. and next will be exhaust but thats not gonna happend this month for sure.

thanks and anyone wanna buy ECU? unrestricted? :)


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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:12 am

Sorry to read that Ed, bloody pratts. Stick the ECU on ebay, it will sell eventually
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:20 am

i didnt wanna mentioned that but you know what the most funny factor? the fucking ebay whole seller stated 149.95$ selling price on the docket stating - Igniter CDI and irish customs charged me for that price even tho i paid 89$ including shipping.. customs told me that they cant refund me as the docket is the official document for them that they have to follow. a lot of music for my money... i hope the ebay seller will refund me or i will contact ebay and i will contact paypal. and i will start dispute... anyone has simillar experience or tips maybe?
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:23 am

Yes that is a dispute that needs resolving, what a twatt  
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:28 am

BigEd wrote:
next will be exhaust but thats not gonna happend this month for sure.

Sorry to hear about the ECU Ed, On a good note though? no one bid on that Exhaust you were looking at? so I bought it for £163.00 delivered (can't resist a bargain) I'll give it a little try on my bike (possibly) If your still in the market for an exhaust in a month or two? give me a shout! if not? no worries, It'll come in handy somewhere in the bikes life.
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PostSubject: Re: Restriced or not?    Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:33 am

simbo enjoy them.

anyway, i will buy the short pipes from metric shop with 10% discount hopefully. but thats gonna happend next month or so. thanks ...
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