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PostSubject: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:00 am

I tried  AC50 it works, but not sure it's any better than WD40. The added benefit was I sprayed all over cables, and drenched the under-tank area just because instructions said I could. Don't know if you can do that with WD40. Got a feeling it was much more expensive than WD40, can't be sure, my memory's not what it was (wait till YOU reach 66)
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:59 am

After many years of using WD40 with brilliant results I switched to AC50 last winter after recommendations from members and used my bike through the winter. I have now switched back to WD40 which I buy by the gallon and will never let ACF50 darken my doorstep ever again. It is over priced crap.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:18 pm

That'll do me. The cheaper the better!
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PostSubject: WD40 and ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:46 pm

Mr Intruder wrote:
will never let ACF50 darken my doorstep ever again. It is over priced crap.


 Why do you say this Dave, have you had some misfortune with it? or is it just in comparison price wise and functionality to WD40. I'm going to do a test, by spraying some wire wool nailed to the shed door, 1 with WD40 and the other ACF50 and see the outcome? It will be interesting to know if ACF matches it's price tag.
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PostSubject: WD40 vs ACF50 Does the latter justify it's price?    Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:07 pm

This evening 4th August 2013 I've sprayed two balls of wire wool, The one on the left with Genuine WD40 and the one on the right with Genuine ACF50, I gave them equal amounts of spray,15 seconds per ball so they were totally covered, We all know how fast wire wool rusts when exposed to the elements, So let the test begin! Is ACF50 worth it's extra cost over WD40?
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:10 pm

You Sir are bored as hell... 

Pop over, I got some gardening to do 
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:16 pm

I used Wd40 for many years and never had any rust on any of my bikes. I always used to buy it by the Gallon and always used it to lubricate, protect and polish my bikes. Last winter I swapped over to ACF50 and by the time winter was out I had signs of rust in more places than I care to count. ACF50 is expensive and for the price of it you would expect it to do what it says on the tin but in my opinion after using it I believe it falls very short of its claims. WD40 when bought by the gallon is pretty bloody cheap and my experience of it over many years has been excellent. Buying it by the gallon meant that I could afford to use it liberally all over the bike. If I removed something I would spray that area with WD40 and I mean literally everywhere on the bike.
When I used to clean my bike with WD40 which is thin it would be sprayed onto the bike and get everywhere, if you did that with ACF50 it would cost you an absolute friggin fortune to cover and protect the bike fully in the way that I have always done with WD40 and to be able to reapply it liberally at will.
For me the proof is in the pudding, I now have rust when I have never had it before!
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:22 pm

It's either that or both didn't really work and the time has come for rust to show.
I only say that because I had rust show through the areas which I kept clean with WD40 over last year  
I'd rather you be right.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:27 pm

One thing I will add is that I can afford to liberally re apply wd40 at will and that would not be feasable with ACF50.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:30 pm

Mr Intruder wrote:
 I now have rust when I have never had it before!


 affraid Rust! I agree, ACF50 would have to protect at least 5 times longer, more, when buying WD40 by the gallon I should imagine.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:37 pm

As soon as it appeared I polished out the surface rust and I reverted back to WD40 and carried on as before. So no rust problem as such now.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:16 pm

MarcinG wrote:
You Sir are bored as hell... 

Pop over, I got some gardening to do 
All in the name of research  It would be good to know if it's worth the extra? as for your gardening? 
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:42 pm

Good move Simbo this should be interesting to see the outcome 
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:00 pm

Now this is interesting. I've used ACF50 for a few years now and had decent results apart from the chrome on my sissy bar is flaking. Not sure what to do with that now. Considered having it powder coated but not sure yet. I may go to WD40 and see how that does.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:14 am

That sissy bar you have is expensive from new, I would have powder coated
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:03 pm

What's that bud? You would powder coat it?
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:18 am

I have puzzled for many days (being retired, there's not much else to do) on the colour of Sim's door, on which he pinned up the wire wool. An unusual and interesting choice of colour. Could Sim be a railway fanatic (as well)? That colour reminds me of the 'malachite green' beloved of the old Southern Railway, steaming out, in the days of steam of course, from Victoria and Waterloo stations to all points south. I remember listening with delight to the 'lopsided' sound of O V Bullied's West Country and Merchant Navy class locos and they pulled out, heading up expresses, including the famous Golden Arrow, en route to Paris. But. I'm rambling now. Has anyone else wondered about the colour of Sim's door?
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:19 am

Seemed to be in good condition until he put a couple of nails in it.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:41 pm

It's been 2 weeks and Two days 20/08/13 now since I put the wire wool outside with the ACF50 and WD40 sprayed on them, The one on the left which was coated with WD40 is now just about showing signs of discolouration and slight rust spots to the bottom where water holds after rain, The one on the Right coated with ACF50 isn't showing any signs of deterioration at all yet.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:05 pm

You dare question one of God's little miracles...you infidel!   
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:28 pm

Both companies will be watching this thread with baited breath! It will be known as 'Simbo's moment of truth' in the trade. Stirring stuff.

  

The question we have to ask is : will this experiment prove once and for all what is better for winter protection of motorcycles or are there other factors? Hmmmm Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:42 pm

Bluesman wrote:
The question we have to ask is : will this experiment prove once and for all what is better for winter protection of motorcycles or are there other factors? Hmmmm 
I'd just like to know if the ACF50 warrants it's price tag really? I think it costs in the region of 5 times as much as WD40, but if it lasts longer and gives less maintenance time it'll be a winner for me.

ps. I've got both, but use neither? they both look good on the garage shelf though 
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:46 pm

Both companies will be watching this thread with baited breath! It will be known as 'Simbo's moment of truth' in the trade. Stirring stuff.





 The companies in question may just find themselves 'shaken, not stirred'
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:50 pm

Any more news on the WD and the ACF, Sim?
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:32 pm

No change as yet Mack, Slight discolouration, but nothing serious, I've just nailed a piece of untreated wire wool up, Just to add to the test.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:48 pm

Good shout Simbo, will look forward to seeing the results with baited breath
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:52 pm

The untreated wire wool isn't holding up well! It's only rained once (today) and it's started to rust already! Just shows how much protection these products offer over nothing at all, The one on the right (acf50) seems to be holding up best as yet.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:32 pm

Sim you should make a profession of scientific experiments.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:19 pm

Before Sim makes a profession of Scientific Experiments, he really should experiment with some decent coloured paint for his door. Can't be good for his 'bike, being wheeled out of a vivd green door on a regular basis. It wouldn't happen in Wales.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:26 pm

Wouldn't happen in wales  
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:11 am

Oiler wrote:
he really should experiment with some decent coloured paint for his door. Can't be good for his 'bike, being wheeled out of a vivd green door on a regular basis.
 That's the finest quality Buckingham green gloss! That door has been painted that colour since the early 1900's and isn't going to change now! lol only because it's the coal shed door and nowhere near my bike  Just out of interest Clive, Do you remember Tippler toilets?, we've got a fully functional tippler next to the coal shed, It never gets used any more, so I ran the kitchen sink waste into it to keep it operational and active to stop it from smelling, I know it's pointless, but it's my little piece of history (along with the coal shed) I'm keeping them alive for the next generations to say, Eww you had no inside toilet or central heating or bathroom lol
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:18 am

Next generation?

I brought out my old LP's when my kids were about 10 (6 years ago) and they said

"cool, look at the size of those CD's!!"
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:50 am

Hadn't realised that your paint was 'finest quality' Apologies. Never heard of a Tippler toilet, had to look up on Google. However, at home in my childhood in Wales, we boasted an outside toilet which would occasionally freeze up in winter.
PS Good to meet you at Squires. You may remember I mentioned that we usually have twin beds spare, if you and missus are ever biking this way.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:13 pm

Sim, I can't help thinking that anyone visiting your gaff, takes a casual glance out the window,
sees the door, and thinks, 'WTF' ... ?
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:18 pm

I'm afraid Badger may be right about peoples' opinion of Sim's coal shed door. Badger is speaking as one, like myself, who has considerable experience of Welsh toilets !
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:43 pm

I hope you dont mean like this Oiler...  

LINKY
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:39 pm

  Ok guys, I'll paint the coal shed door once the wire wool experiment is over Embarassed I hope the ACF50 and WD40 last a few years 
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:52 pm

Big Mal has taken it upon himself to comment on sheep (Welsh?) as they relate to toilets. I must stress that Welsh sheep are of the finest quality, and it's therefore only natural that Welshmen should have a fondness for them. This fondness, contrary to myth, never strays to improper levels. Several years ago, I was at the seaside with my last but one wife, when I had need (as one does) to visit the public lavatory. When I emerged, my then wife pointed out that if I'd been any longer, I'd have risked being arrested. Those were the early days of my prostate problem, but I'm on tablets now. One benefit of getting older and developing a prostate problem, is that one gets to visit more public toilets than younger men. In all my considerable experience of these visits, I have never seen a queue of sheep waiting to use a human toilet, contrary to the unfortunate cartoon that Mal managed to dig up. One can only feel that the cartoon reflects poorly on the diseased mind of the cartoonist.lol!
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:18 pm

Nope, I'm with Mal on this one  My Mrs is an adopted Welsh girl   Even she says that welsh men have an unnatural fondness of sheep velcro and public toilets  Only joking! 
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:39 pm

Clearly a case of 'sour grapes' your siding with Mal, now you've been shamed into re-painting your coal shed door. I think you need to get out more. Visiting some public toilets might be a good place to start !
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:04 am

I believe Sim said he would repaint door. Did hear a word about color change.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:10 am

Tex has spotted the flaw in Sim's offer to re-paint the (now famous) door. Sim hasn't said he'd change the colour (color, Tex) Such skulduggery is worthy of only the most devious mind. I can see Sim, shaven headed, with a long scar running down his face, stroking a white cat, as he plans to fool us all with his re-paint. No doubt Mr Blofeld Sim's phone number begins with the numbers 007.... I  suspect that in due course, and  having made much of all this to the local press, Sim will have 'open days', when the general public will be permitted to view his re-painted door, finest quality Buckingham green of course. A nice little earner. Well, Tex has uncovered the scheme. Well done Tex. I suggest that Tex be appointed Inquisitor General to the forum Thank you
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:10 pm

hahahahahaha good ol Sim fooled you all lol not so sure he pull's the wool over his good lady's eyes very often though lol
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:36 pm

Would that be wire wool ? perfumed of course with WD40 (smells like violets when heated, don't know about ACF50)
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:56 pm

:fpost:   you're on a roll Clive!
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:03 pm

I must start taking  my tablets again (not the prostate ones).
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:16 pm

Oiler wrote:
PS Good to meet you at Squires. You may remember I mentioned that we usually have twin beds spare, if you and missus are ever biking this way.
Sorry for the late reply Clive,This thread took a funny diversion  I do remember your kind offer  It's one we'll be taking you up on in the future for sure  , Right? no updates on the wire wool, So Carry on with the door colour, perfumed wool (wire) and the likes lol.
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:28 pm

Be great to see you both. Have a few runs in mind
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PostSubject: Re: WD40 or ACF50   Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:23 am

Nothing to report on this one really (not had much rain) top two are still holding up well, Right one (acf) looks to be holding up better? This could be a long experiment! A good thing really? Seeing as I promised to paint the shed door when it's over  
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