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fat intruder
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:34 am

SHIT that's hot hahahahahha
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:49 am

A bit... that's why it's good practice to wait in between layers for it to cool down, otherwise you have stacked effect.

Might try expanding foam, overlay with something like fibre clay, let that harden and then crack on with fibreglass.

I think that whole discovery process will be more interesting than the actual project haha
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:42 pm

how about if you covered the foam with fiberglass filler then did your layers on top of that just an idea good luck
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:56 pm

That might be just the right thing to do mate!
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:30 pm

cool glad to help as they say upstairs for thinking and all that when your rich give me a job or a free mudguard
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:39 pm

I think thats how they make surfboards marcin.... a foam blank with resin over the top.  Not sure if epoxy or polyester resin but maybe google that
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:16 pm

Dry wall adhesive built up in layers?
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:21 pm

Plastic is very easy to bend into any shape required, I would be inclined to get a sheet of it and make what I wanted and then just connect them together before filling and smoothing them out to look like a complete single fender. More than one way to skin a cat.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:29 pm

simbo wrote:
Dry wall adhesive built up in layers?
If you can cut it, sand it, and overall shape it after it hardens, then why not.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Mr Intruder wrote:
Plastic is very easy to bend into any shape required, I would be inclined to get a sheet of it and make what I wanted and then just connect them together before filling and smoothing them out to look like a complete single fender. More than one way to skin a cat.
Not sure I follow boss.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:58 pm

Do you mean take a quick template of the shape and use that as a guide for heating the plastic up for pliability and bending into that shape. Then cutting a piece off to be attached that is the correct shape or form?
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:00 pm

yes I do, sort of.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:22 pm

MarcinG wrote:
simbo wrote:
Dry wall adhesive built up in layers?
If you can cut it, sand it, and overall shape it after it hardens, then why not.
Yeah mate, It's good stuff for things like that, you could mix it and let it go off for a bit and then smear it inside the fender, then once it's dry it sets like rock too! plus it's a fine powder so you'd get a good smooth finish, Plus it's only about a fiver a bag, and 1 should be enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:54 pm

Right...just to make sure we're on the same page.

I'll have to cut away the foam to remove the bits in red.
I'll have to build the foam up significantly to form the low blue bit.


However, I have to admit...once drawn, I keep looking at it and that's not the shape I'd like...
There's a thought in the back of my mind that I should ditch taking the cast from old fender and come up with other means of making it.

I need sleep...that's certain.
New ideas tomorrow :]
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:39 am

Marcin, I can see & understand the bottom but why are you changing the flow of the top, is it because of another mod you have planned?
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:49 am

Erm...don't know what I meant actually.
Done late and tired. Not much better now..overslept and looking at the screen with one good eye ;D

Looks like I didn't like the curvature there.... Need to do a proper drawing.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:07 pm

Marcin. Just looked at your drawing. Could you (if you had them) get two fenders. Cut them I'm half nearer the tail. Then join them together to get your mold? You would get a full semicircle then. Then just shape then end by the floor. ? Or make to half molds and join them. Then make your one complete mold? Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:31 pm

Rather than cut the fender, just fill up to the start of the red line, then release the fender and move it round further to create a bigger semi circle without using the tail of the fender that protrudes out?.
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:16 am

Arron,
I have two rear fenders but there's no way I'm cutting both up Very Happy

Sim,
That's BLOODY BRILLIANT!
Either that or fill and swap/turn around and fill... Head's buzzin now :]

It'll wait a bit though... getting busy with speedos now...
oh...and I sent you an email...probably ended up in spam box as usual :/
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:23 am

Thats what i said, do two half molds..Good lucK  












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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:09 am

Darn it! I really need to stop replying at night.... you did say that indeed!

I'm losing it slowly Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:40 am

No probs, been on the net looking at these and you can buy them for around $200 front and back.
But i know thats not the point with you. For me its ideal, but then i dont have the skills or the means to knock out such good work.

Keep it up chap!
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:08 pm

Don't worry Marcin, I have to be careful any time of day or night that I reply because I read back through my own posts and often have to edit or delete them as the can read as a load of old shit. Sometimes it takes me so long responding and re-editing my own posts before I am finally happy with them & submit, that someone else has responded. Good thing about this site is we all quickly learn other peoples habits and personalities and take that into consideration when responding at times, not always though.   

I think the main thing is that you are taking your time and considering all the options before attacking it. You will find it easier because you will of had time to think and asses all the different ways of doing it. 
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:29 pm

Mr I,  I agree with what you say as I too sometimes spend more time rewriting a mail than needed. It doesn't seem to match what I want to say then it says too much then it seems just right. 
Marcin, do what you think is the right thing for you & it'll be right then.lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:26 pm

Since we all do it, I reckon it's because we're getting old LOL   
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PostSubject: Re: Taildragger winter project   Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:43 pm

speak for your self Marcin my brain still thinks it's 25 unfortunately my body feels like I'm an
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