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Mr Intruder
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PostSubject: Triking an Intruder?   Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:15 pm

Just wondered if any one has any knowledge of building a trike? I have many plans in my head for what I want to do to my beasty over many years. However my final plan will be to trike it in a few years time..
S has anyone got any experience of turning a bike into a trike them selves. I would never dream of buying a kit and would do it with a bag of bear bones so to speak.
So come on what do you know about triking an Intruder that has a diff?
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:15 am

  I'll be interested to hear these posts, Because no matter how much "because your worth it creams and tablets" we use, we're all going to get old and fragile  and having the option to trike our bikes and carry on riding without spending loads of cash for a bespoke Trike is a very good option  

ps. I've got another 50 plus years before I need to be thinking Trike Very Happy  But, some of you old gimmers are pushing the boundaries already and should be thinking Trike  Only joking guys!  If you guys riding Trike's could post a photo of your rear end? (not that one) It would give an insight into how the 800's could be Trike'd DIY and what work would be involved? Cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:33 am

Sim I am way passed the boundaries    .
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:32 am

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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:36 am

Some interesting reading there Tex, with a little extra insight. However a buy it and fit it kit would never be of interest to me as such. I would be looking for info on which parts to use for compatibility & how it is done. I know that VW Beatles are often used to trike a bike but am at present unsure of how the Intruder & it would fit. I think it would be simply a matter of having the drive shafts cut and welded together but would need to find that out (on any diff).
Also is the gearing left as it was from its use within a car if you bought a car rear end or would the gearing need changing in some way to encourage compatibility in some way?
There are so many ways that this needs looking and from so many angles. I also think that a Reliant Robin diff could be ideal but being a no nothing on this subject, I still have no idea of what should & should not be taken into consideration but will enjoy finding out over time.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:32 pm

I think the reliant robin arse end would be a nice size but the VW just looks meaty, I would prefer big wheels if I was doing it
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:55 pm

I think the size of wheels is all retrospective to the way you decide you want the final build and the design of the whole thing to end up.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:01 pm

Do you have a plan with it then on how you want it to look
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:08 pm

No, I am thinking years away. So no rush with it, just a lot of thinking & looking.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:11 pm

Dave  my tramp has a Diff. based on the 6.5 inch Ford rear end.
It has a 4 bolt wheel pattern.
When I replaced some brake parts I used parts for 79 Pinto.
 I think it is 3.18to1 gear ratio. It has 15 inch wheels. 
 It has a drive shaft with a u joint on back end that run off original final drive of the C50.
 I am not sure if it has a u joint on front of drive shaft.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:21 pm

Now that is very useful info, something to go on while I research.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:37 pm

Dave It uses the original shock setup of the C50. It basically removes the back section from there back and replaces the back suspension with the trike section.
The rear end is mounted solid. It gets the shock action from the original shock.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:57 pm

That all makes sense, as no additional weight is put through the stock suspension. I really like the idea of building my own trike and may possibly not wait the years I was originally intending to. I may very well just get another bike at some point to do this to.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:16 pm

Just been looking into this a little bit this evening and I can see why people get it done for them, at first glance seems harder than I at first thought
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:36 pm

That's what gives it the extra excitement but not as hard as you seem to think, I just like the idea of doing it myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:47 pm

Lehman uses what ever final drive for the bike used. If it is shaft drive it uses shaft. If it is belt drive they use belt  I am thinking belt would be even more simple
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:59 pm

Trikeability down the line was one of the considerations for buying the suzuki for me.

I do wonder though whether it's  a good thing to bolt what is bound to be a fair amount of extra weight to the bike?  Touring 2 up plus luggage in the summer I felt I put the engine under a bit of strain.... used more oil than usual (it was hilly & twisty though).

See the link below Dave.... maybe a half way house between a full trike kit or a total DIY approach...?
http://www.casarva.co.uk/
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:31 am

Is the engine really under strain from triking, these bikes are triked very often? Anyway from what I have seen these bikes are slightly restricted when they come out of the factory and before mods are done to the fuel injection and pull so much better after? O yeah and that looks like a good link Mal, could be well useful and give a better insight for anyone building or wanting to buy a kit 
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:34 pm

Crash ,me being a big man I am already riding two up all by myself. Very Happy  Mine would do better if I lost 60 pounds or gained a couple of 100cc's
Adding The K&N filter and Fi2000Pro helps greatly. I love my Trike but I kind of wish it was a C90. If I were a younger man I would definitely go bigger but at my age it does what I need for now.
 With the added drag from the wind and added tire drag and power loss from drive train it is a little underpowered.  Where I have my biggest problem  with mine is if I have a strong headwind it really struggles. 
 So if I was going to build a Trike as we are discussing I would go with a bigger starter bike. At least a C90. I am thinking the Triumph Rocket III would be a real rocket.
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PostSubject: Re: Triking an Intruder?   Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:37 pm

or keep it as light as possible and don't go big on the rear wheels to reduce tyre drag
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