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Mr Intruder
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:30 pm

I have enjoyed watching this thread evolve and will definitely be doing it, thanks for all the hard work guy's. I will refer back to this thread ASAP for inspiration.  
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:48 pm

I would also like to thank Jose and Sim for all their hard work,well done lads.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:17 pm

    
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:25 pm

I must also agree and say that some members really are an asset and deserve praise, very well done Sirs.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:49 pm

Thanks Team for you are always here, ok?
But i sincerely hope that this was not the end but a pointing start to go ahead with 
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:00 pm

TaurusTuga wrote:
Thanks Team for you are always here, ok?
But i sincerely hope that this was not the end but a pointing start to go ahead with 

  Did I mention I'm off work for 10 days?    The devil makes work for idle hands as they say  Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:16 pm

simbo wrote:
TaurusTuga wrote:
Thanks Team for you are always here, ok?
But i sincerely hope that this was not the end but a pointing start to go ahead with 

  Did I mention I'm off work for 10 days?    The devil makes work for idle hands as they say  Twisted Evil

             
              
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:35 pm

Crack on then chaps, would be great to see one installed soon     
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:42 pm

captain crash wrote:
Crack on then chaps, would be great to see one installed soon     

Yep…and step by step "as if we were at schooll  " and need so badly learn with pro members !!!! 
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:51 pm

The Parts are on their way  
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:56 pm

Great another mod to watch and do in the near future.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:13 pm

simbo wrote:
The Parts are on their way  

When???……when???....      
       
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:04 pm

The Gauge and Adapter arrived today   I'm impressed with the size of the gauge, It's smaller than I'd imagined so it'll give me more options for placement, I'm quite pleased with the adapter too  Very Happy Not that I get excited about adapters or anything pervy? I'd read somewhere that a 22mm adapters size was taken from the internal measurements, which would have been too large, anyway, the measurements are external so it should be a good fit. bloody typical I'm back in work now! so I'll crack on with fitting it as soon as I get a minute.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:57 pm

O yes, I new you would order it. Can't wait for your install  
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:19 pm

      
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:42 pm

Worth while waiting and watching Sim,certainly a mod on my list.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:45 am

Nice one Sim, will look forward to your findings & Install.  
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:40 pm

The installation didn't go to plan, after close inspection of hose 22 I didn't feel the adapter would be suitable in that position, It's too short to get the adapter in before the bend in the pipe and I got a feeling the hose might kink?, I've gone back to the idea of fitting an adapter in the bypass hose and ordered one of suitable size so that's all I'm waiting for now, I've wired the gauge in and had it working with a sensor in some warm water and it works well, I'm impressed with it's novelty factor too!  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:05 pm

simbo wrote:
…I've gone back to the idea of fitting an adapter in the bypass hose and ordered one of suitable size so that's all I'm waiting for now, I've wired the gauge in and had it working with a sensor in some warm water and it works well, I'm impressed with it's novelty factor too!  Laughing

First step: didn't go well, but of course you didn't give a chance to give up: I WANT ANOTHER ONE WITH OTHER SIZE!!  
And if the Koso works well on warm water it's only a matter of time to install all and the "temperature will rock it"           

Sim……i am watching very heedful with this and the other "bypass the redline tacho"     

I am still waiting for the reply about the "later models having dual coils":7348:
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:02 pm

That looks even better now we have seen it twinkle    Will be great to see the final installation with a    from Simbo on top  
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:43 am

Looks bloody good. We all know if anyone can get it to run perfectly & work out any hiccups, it will be you Sim. Looking forward to your final install thumbs up.  
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:34 am

Mr Intruder wrote:
Looks bloody good. We all know if anyone can get it to run perfectly & work out any hiccups, it will be you Sim. Looking forward to your final install thumbs up.  
         
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:28 pm

Fitted and working!    Fan kicks in just as the gauge is about to hit 102C  that's 3C before it's supposed to? whether that's due to the sensor being slightly away from the cylinders or the gauge is slightly inaccurate? or even the fan sensor being inaccurate? who knows lol, To fit the sensor adapter I just used two G clamps to squash the pipe either side of the Joint in the bypass hose to lose minimal coolant while I took the plastic joint out and slipped the adapter in.

This is what it replaced

Here's the fan kicking in 
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:35 pm

That is great to see, you realy is the man. Well done Simbo
      
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:36 pm

Well done Sim,glad to see you stuck at it and got it to work.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:09 pm

That seems like a modification that is open to even the likes of I, extremely well done Mr Simbo Sir.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:32 pm

Great Sim you did it again, you're the man…   
What is the size in mm of the sensor adapter? Can you leave the link here?

Perhaps after the tacho this will be the next one…i hope Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:57 pm

It's an 8mm 1/8 npt fuel pressure gauge adapter (internal diameter) but there's various types on eBay that could be used for the same thing, I chose this because it's solid (just seal the sensor with PTFE tape) as opposed to having 3 seals (either end + sensor) to make up.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110950968481?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649


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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:15 pm

Good Job Sim.    
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:01 am

That looks great Sim, job very well done.    
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:54 am

Excellent, well done! Thanks for the great pictures. This might be the easiest way to install the sensor, so I need to consider this also.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:46 pm

simbo wrote:
It's an 8mm 1/8 npt fuel pressure gauge adapter (internal diameter) but there's various types on eBay that could be used for the same thing, I chose this because it's solid (just seal the sensor with PTFE tape) as opposed to having 3 seals (either end + sensor) to make up.

Thanks Sim for your kindly attention to share with all your knowledge and experience.   
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:29 pm

Hi Yeah I can't see why not if you can find somewhere suitable for the temperature sensor boss to be fitted? I can't see a By-pass pipe for the water pump on the VX schematic? Is there one? so I presume it would have to be fitted on one of the flow pipes somewhere between the cylinder and and water pump to give a reasonably accurate reading.
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PostSubject: Re: Installing coolant/water temperature gauge . . . . . . (Now Done)   Sun May 21, 2017 8:29 pm

You'll probably be able to get one from car spares shop or they might order one in? I'm not sure where you'd mount it on the VX as it doesn't seem to have a by pass hose on the thermostat?
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PostSubject: Wow - Simbo - this is juswt a great posting - i love it   Tue May 22, 2018 10:14 pm

Wow - Simbo  - this is juswt a great posting - i love it - i really like your posting and all what you describe.many thanks for sharing your ideas and experience. simbo wrote:
I've had a look at the Cooling system today to get an idea of what goes where and where things might fit? The best place to fit the sensor adaptor would be on hose '19' as near to the rear cylinder as possible, But it's 'metal' and would mean cutting the pipe and getting a sensor adaptor the same diameter as the pipe and fitting hose over each joint so seal it, Pipe '22' is to short and has a bend in it, so that's not really an option, hose '7' only gets warm after the thermostat has opened so wouldn't give a true reading, especially if the thermostat was faulty, Hose '6' is to short and would only give the temperature of water after it's been cooled by the radiator once the thermostat has opened, Hose '4' would only give the temperature of the coolant in the radiator, So basically that leaves the thermostat By-Pass hose at the bottom (under 7) That would give a true reading of the coolant temperature at all times, There's a joint in the by-pass hose near the left foot peg which would be a ready made place to put a sensor adaptor without it being to visible, that would also allow the wiring to be run along the larger pipe up towards the headstock where the gauge would be situated, These are the hose diagrams again for reference  (saves scrolling) and below is what you would need to fit it.


Hose adaptor
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Gauge-Adaptor-8mm-1-8-NPTF-/350894162287?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item51b2ec016f

Temperature gauge and sensor
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271423794107?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
###many many thanks - i am going to follow you and do the same on my bike.
Again - thanks to you buddy - for sharing your ideas and experience.  Have a great day. Greetings the butcher -
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