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Chuckie1976
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PostSubject: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:56 am

Now after the VS1400 mod is done i am looking to do something else.::))))) some new exhausts ...anyone who got some would recommend something? i can mention that i dont have a problem with the noise...:)))
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:08 am

ups i saw now the section with exhaust.....reading material for 1 week:PPP
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:34 pm

If you like loud, get Jardine Rumblers....  Twisted Evil 
Got few videos of these on my YT (link in my signature) so you can hear them.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:02 pm

V&H Pro Pipe  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:21 pm

I have only heard Mr Intruders V&H cruisers which sound very loud and very nice. He reckons that Simbos V&H pro pipe are the cream of the cream and are amazing. 
Straight though pipes are very loud and I know some like them but as a rule I think straight through pipes sound shit and are far to raspy
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:00 am

If you can afford it, then buy a V&H Pro Pipe, an amazing sound.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:20 am

Vance and Hines everytime for me.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:37 am

OH yes... Pro Pipe...damn you Sim for ever showing it to me....  lol! 

I'd love to have two of these, one on each side  Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:50 am

Most after markets sound better than stock. Generally speaking the more you pay the better they are. I had cheaper Highway Hawks on my Intruder. They sounded great but were only single wall and got stupidly hot. My V&H I currently run on my VN are double wall - no melted boots now! Personally I really rate having a free flowing air filter, fuel processor and pipes without a baffle for that full on cruiser deep sound. However it all costs and many who go to after markets find them too loud after a while. I have pipes only with no extras and baffles in and my bike still turns heads wherever I go. Just my four penneth. I agree the Pro-Pipe is probably the daddy of them all for out and out rumble. Failing that, 2 into 2 pipes give a nice burble. For me  50% of cruiser appeal is about sound and so after markets are essential upgrades. Have fun - your bike is about to be transformed yet again!
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:27 pm

I have always admired the finger in the air given by some motorcyclists although I must admit that I am very careful of the exhaust sounds when in particular situations.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:57 am

  On being careful of the noise given out in particular situations Ken but any guy that isn't is a self obsessed inconsiderate wanker.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:38 am

K02 slash cut silvertails. Mega mega loud.  Love them. Ight need ear plugs!
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 3:58 pm

i saw on a friend of mine on his intruder 1500 Cobra Shotgun pipes...very nice sound...i am having problem when i try to find pipes , cant find for my manufacture year 2013
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 4:56 pm

If you dont want to keep the bike running with the useless CO2 sensors then the year of manafacture makes no difference as they will all fit from any year
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 5:07 pm

As in Cobra Shotgun Pipes, do you mean 'Dragsters' They're the only pipes Cobra list for the 1500.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 5:28 pm

http://www.cobrausa.com/suzuki/c50_10_14/motorcycle_exhausts/streetrod_w_bungs/3718-C/
any ideea on these?
do i have to install something else on the bike if i put these on?
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 5:42 pm

They'll fit fine with no additional work  
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 7:12 pm

I mean will the bike work without co2 sensors?
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 7:23 pm

Those pipes 'have' the co2 sensor bosses fitted to them, if you 'don't' want the co2 sensors on your bike? you can just block the bosses off with a bolt, your bike will work fine without the co2 sensors connected but the FI light will flash on the clock, To stop it flashing you'll need to cut 'wire 23' on the ECU or fit co2 eliminators to fool the ECU that they're connected, either way your bike will run fine  
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 12, 2014 7:46 pm

MarcinG wrote:
If you like loud, get Jardine Rumblers....  Twisted Evil 
Got few videos of these on my YT (link in my signature) so you can hear them.

    
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Mr Intruder
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 13, 2014 8:25 am

If you like loud then the Jardine rumblers are not any louder than a lot of after market pipes including my V&H Cruzers which I believe are louder and sound better. If you like loud buy straight through pipes.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Wed May 14, 2014 7:15 am

So. its possible to buy the cobra pipes without the CO2 sensor holes, for an intruder any year, then drill the holes at a professional guy for the sensors? because the pipes with holes are more expensive and i have to talk with a store in USA that will place the order at cobrausa then wait for the pipes to arrive then ship it to Ro....these ones for example http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cobra-Streetrod-Slashdown-Exhaust-Suzuki-Volusia-800-C50-C50B-C50T-M50-3917-/141122666242?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20db90ff02&vxp=mtr
Or no drilling just " you can just block the bosses off with a bolt, your bike will work fine without the co2 sensors connected but the FI light will flash on the clock, To stop it flashing you'll need to cut 'wire 23' on the ECU or fit co2 eliminators to fool the ECU that they're connected, either way your bike will run fine   "
what do you say guys?
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Mr Intruder
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Wed May 14, 2014 8:41 am

Cutting the wire does a bit more than just turning the light off, that makes it sound a little more simple than it is, it's the HO2 control selector. So no it doesn't  turn it off, it is not activated in the first place to get turned off.
It is very cheap & easy to get the bosses fitted if desired but they simply are not required, better to disable the CO2 sensor.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Sun May 18, 2014 12:41 pm

ok i ordered some Cobra streetrod pipes( with no holes for the CO2 sensors). what i am worried about now is that some people are saying that disabling the CO2 sensors will have a negative efect on the engine, it wont be the good mixture of gases and will affect the engine...
i am waiting or this ones http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cobra-Streetrod-Chrome-Exhaust-Suzuki-Intruder-Volusia-800-C50-M50-0108-TR3717-/360933532720
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Sun May 18, 2014 7:50 pm

Chuckie1976 wrote:
what i am worried about now is that some people are saying that disabling the CO2 sensors will have a negative efect on the engine, it wont be the good mixture of gases and will affect the engine...
 
Well you know we dont say that here so if you are saying that 'people' are saying that ask them for their advice
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Sun May 18, 2014 10:26 pm

Got to agree with Crash, if others have advised you differently then you need to ask them for their reasoning as we disagree and see it as no more than pollution control. Good for the environment but does nothing for the bike.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 19, 2014 8:51 am

Guys i mean no disrespect..im just trying to get the best for my baby and not to damage her...
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 19, 2014 2:28 pm

No disrespect taken matey, I can see why if your unsure you would be a little concerned. Please dont take offence from what we have said but we all believe it is a good thing to do but if you have been told its not then asking them why it isnt would be good for you and letting us know could be good for us to but I believe they are wrong  
Please keep us informed if you find out any negative thing about it because we cant see any in any way, We have tried to explain the process to you in this thread and I cant see what else we can do if you are finding out information in any way that we have not got or agree with from somewhere else 
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 26, 2014 1:09 pm

Cobra streetrod arrived...:))))) one question( you know me no mechanical skills:) can i remove the co2 sensors completly? I mean follow the wire and unplug it
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 26, 2014 3:07 pm

so i talked to my mechanic he is busy this week, im am changing the pipes with a friend. i want to do as folows: drill a hole in the pipes , weld a screwnut for the co2 sensor to fit into , then no cutting of any wire required. correct?
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Mon May 26, 2014 5:24 pm

Chuckie1976 wrote:
Cobra streetrod arrived...:))))) one question( you know me no mechanical skills:) can i remove the co2 sensors completly? I mean follow the wire and unplug it

Yes.

Chuckie1976 wrote:
so i talked to my mechanic he is busy this week, im am changing the pipes with a friend. i want to do as folows: drill a hole in the pipes , weld a screwnut for the co2 sensor to fit into , then no cutting of any wire required. correct?

Yes, unless fitting C02 eliminator.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 10:07 am

Ok i decided to leave the pipes as they arrived but when we wanted to cut the wire 23 we saw there is no wire in the slot 23

Please help

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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 10:40 am

Not been informed of any changes to the newer models control unit so far. Best thing to do would be to buy the CO2 cable sensor eliminator plugs, very cheap.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 11:32 am

Can you see in the picture? By my calculation port 23 is blocked..or maybe my calculation is not good...
Also please provide a link to a store that is selling co2 eliminators...
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 9:21 pm

Sure is blocked off, must of changed from the 2011 models on-wards? The only place I can think of thats sells them in the UK is ( Custom Cruisers ) who members get a 10% discount from when quoting this site. I am sure there must be loads of other sellers on ebay and other places as well. You need 2 eliminators
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 9:31 pm

Your calculation is good Chuckie, This is a picture of my ECU, If you look at yours, blocked off are 23/24/29/30 looking at mine only 30 is blocked off, 2009 VL800 with 2 co2 sensors, I wonder if it's due to the country or all later models are like this? Your bike does actually have co2 sensors in the exhaust?
Send these an Email, they'll sort you out with the eliminators.
http://www.customcruisers.com/Custom2005/customshop2005-copy/index.html
my ECU
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 9:35 pm

Must type faster  
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 9:36 pm

Bloody 10 minutes faster or maybe a beer faster    
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 9:39 pm

Yes it had 2 sensor...but now who cares...she is roaring like a beast!!!i will sort the sensors later...
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 9:46 pm

Nice pipes!!  
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 9:58 pm

That looks bloody ace, sorting them later will be ok me thinks  
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Tue May 27, 2014 10:01 pm

Today the streets were loud, people looking strange...but who cares...here the bloody car drivers need to hear you , they got no respect for bikers...
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Wed May 28, 2014 5:33 am

Looks fantastic Chuckie, at least they know your coming now.  Twisted Evil 
Out of curiosity because your pin #23 is blanked off, has the red fuel injection light come on?
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Wed May 28, 2014 5:49 am

Yes the FI sign is always on:(
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Wed May 28, 2014 5:58 am

I wouldn't worry about it, if it gets on your nerves then buy a couple of CO2 sensor eliminators.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:11 am

ok guys who knows which wire to cut on my ECU? the red light is getting on my nerves....
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:26 pm

I've been chasing this for months. It seems no one actually knows what the f1 wire is on the 2013. I have been told, pun 6.. Just cut the black and white one. My ocd won't let me do anything till I know for sure. Pm me if you ever get it sorted... I'll do the same.
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:01 pm

We will do Phil, we are buggered on the newer models until we get an updated wiring diagram
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:11 pm

There are no sensor eliminators also for the 2013 model...
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PostSubject: Re: New Exhaust? ~ 2013 VL800   Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:31 am

This is true. The ecm was upgraded from the 2012 to the 2013 and it is 'smart' enough to register the change in input and errors out. I have 3 sets of eliminators sitting on my shelf all different shorts. I have corresponded with Suzuki (No ass istance), Powercommander in US, Local shops and I finally just drilled out the exshaust and unplugged the PCV because it seemed I was the only person in the whole of google with this issue. It seems I am not so if anyone finds out anything.. do post and let us know. Not that I am that concerned anymore because I am putting my bike up for sale next month to buy something easier to play with. :)
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