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EazyDuz
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PostSubject: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 3:21 pm

I keep my bike garaged overnight but in the day or times where it won't be at home, i could do with some better security.
Recently had to remove the alarm i had fitted as it was drawing 0.09A which was killing my battery in 10 days. 
I have a cheap Ebay chain and alarmed disc lock but neither are very good.
Any recommendations?
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 4:36 pm

Oxford ground anchor is good & I also carry a whacking great disc lock & a spring wire locking set up for helmets etc.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 5:17 pm

ebay ground anchor double skin about £20 just as good as oxford, thatcham secure chain from mammoth 10mm with oxford mini u lock, plus alarm mobiliser and tagging!!! if they want it they have to work for it.
10 days is about average for an alarm when the bikes not used, either fire it up weekly or get a battery tender (thanks again sim) and plug it in 1 day a week.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 6:08 pm

I suffer from antitheft paranoia, garage has double skinned ground anchor with huge Oxford chain/lock, two huge Abus U-locks, is fully belled and I park a BMW X5 hard up against the garage door.

Out and about I've got a huge Krall disc lock that you could use to club a rhino to death and another Abus u-lock I use to lock the bike to something.

I'm still paranoid when out and about so it's very rare I leave the bike unattended anyhoo.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 7:41 pm

Two Abus padlocks and an Abus chain (supplied by work) for if I leave it overnight anywhere, one through the disc and one on the chain, I don't bother locking them in the garage as the cars in front of the door and they won't fit down the side, plus we have 3 dogs so if someone was going to pinch the bikes? they'd have to kill or injure the dogs first and I'd be more pissed about the dogs than the bikes. If they want them that bad? they'll get them no matter what we do. resistant is futile.  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 8:17 pm

As long as I've remembered to lock the garage, insurance and gap will provide me with two lovely new bikes!
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 8:29 pm

An ex burglar once advised that even 'state of the art' alarms etc are little more than "a challenge".  Suspect The only thing that really unnerved him were a gravel path and a dog combo! pale
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Wed May 04, 2016 8:39 pm

When Les used to ride pillion I would just leave her near the bike ..... it scarred most people off !

(She is currently out of the country & cannot see these disparaging comments) sssmily
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 8:30 am

Skidalot wrote:
An ex burglar once advised that even 'state of the art' alarms etc are little more than "a challenge".  Suspect The only thing that really unnerved him were a gravel path and a dog combo! pale

It never ceases to amaze me the way these so called ex burglars, like to brag about their so called skill as a scum criminal.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Lowey wrote:
Skidalot wrote:
An ex burglar once advised that even 'state of the art' alarms etc are little more than "a challenge".  Suspect The only thing that really unnerved him were a gravel path and a dog combo! pale

It never ceases to amaze me the way these so called ex burglars, like to brag about their so called skill as a scum criminal.
I fail to see what part of my post led you to believe that he was bragging about it?  
The person in question works or worked for a security firm in an advisory capacity from what I can recall (its a long time ago since I read it).
Personally if I was about to splash out a small fortune of my 'hard earned' on home security I'd like to get the opinion of someone who could tell me if its any good or not? After all, I think we have all heard the phrases "poacher turned gamekeeper".. "set a thief to catch a thief" etc etc.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 7:05 pm

It also amazes me what kind of security firm employs criminals. If you seek the advice on your security issues from criminals that is your business we live in a free country. all the best to you.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 7:08 pm

Skidalot wrote:



Personally if I was about to splash out a small fortune of my 'hard earned' on home security I'd like to get the opinion of someone who could tell me if its any good or not? After all, I think we have all heard the phrases "poacher turned gamekeeper".. "set a thief to catch a thief" etc etc.

It's like the thieves "Which Magazine" review    no better place to get reviews than someone who's actually out to break into these things, it's show's the frailties the manufacturers won't ever tell you about 
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 7:26 pm

In a similar vein some companies pay "hackers" to try and bypass their internet security....
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 8:40 pm

One of my bikes has a 'Tracker' device fitted (by the previous owner). I though I would 'register' for the service ... & they advised me to go for an upgrade as with the age of the existing unit it would be due a new internal battery.
An engineer came at the appointed day, but I was disappointed at his lack of professionalism. He did not know where the original unit was fitted (Organisational issue - poor record keeping) & he pissed about trying to trace wires & correct circuit to splice into (Unprofessional fitter). When he finally fitted it he could not prove it was working correctly. He partially dismantled the unit & I could see how easy it would be to disarm it.
Whilst this is a well respected product that can secure recovery of a vehicle, it is simple to defeat if you know how.
So .... it does not matter how much you spend - there will always be a way for a professional criminal to help themselves to your pride & joy - all you can do is minimise the likelihood of an opportunist having a go ! .... Just make sure you have a decent insurance policy
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 9:13 pm

When I'm out, I use an Abus Victory, which I carry on a bracket fitted at the bottom of the frame 

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At home I use an Oxford Monster lock fitted through a double wall ground anchor.  Double locked garage behind a wrought iron gate & a loud dog
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 9:20 pm

I would rather listen to an ex thief than someone who thinks their knowledge of bike security is good. Then they find out it wasn't.  Even governments have been known to employ so called ex criminals to tighten security.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 9:25 pm

At the end of the day, if they want it, they're going to have it - all you can do is deter them enough for them to move onto a less well protected bike.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 9:53 pm

After this thread i put the alarm back in and will just start the bike once a week. 
I'll make do with that, my alarmed disc lock and chain. Might invest in a thicker chain though which won't succumb to cutters. 
Doubt the bike will ever be in an area where someone can whip an angle grinder out and not be noticed. There is a 14mm link chain on Ebay for £60 which looks alright
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 9:55 pm

Fit an Optimate (or similar) - the battery on my Katana lasted eight years & that was with an alarm fitted
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 9:58 pm

I have a tender from Halfords which works well. I just get lazy because the wire to connect it is behind the storage compartment side panel, but the bike is always up against the wall on that side in the garage.
Is it possible to get an adaptor to charge it from the 12v socket on the handlebars? Would make life easier
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 10:01 pm

Never leave your chain resting on the floor or something thieves can use to get more leverage with their bolt cutters.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Thu May 05, 2016 10:02 pm

Just run the connector under the side panel so it pokes out slightly & connect it that way - that's how mine is - works a teat.  Just remember to slip the dust cap over when you go out to stop the crap getting into the connectors
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 2:11 am

I don't use any security. I am 76 and prostate cancer survivor. Not much need for security. 
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 6:02 am

katsd wrote:
Just run the connector under the side panel so it pokes out slightly & connect it that way - that's how mine is - works a teat.  Just remember to slip the dust cap over when you go out to stop the crap getting into the connectors

Snap, mine pops out of the bodywork near the nearside rear footpeg hanger and I have put a cable tie at the very end to stop it flapping about.
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 8:11 am

v-twin wrote:
katsd wrote:
Just run the connector under the side panel so it pokes out slightly & connect it that way - that's how mine is - works a teat.  Just remember to slip the dust cap over when you go out to stop the crap getting into the connectors

Snap, mine pops out of the bodywork near the nearside rear footpeg hanger and I have put a cable tie at the very end to stop it flapping about.


Snap MK2

Exactly where mine is, cable tie too 
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 8:26 am

Mine just dangles and flaps in the wind  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 8:49 am

What about your Optimate connector, Sim ?
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 10:47 am

Mine gets wet from being dragged on the road
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 11:02 am

Same question Skid !!
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 11:03 am

Mine flaps around whilst riding annoying anyone in the rear seat!
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 11:09 am

I have no doubt what you're talking about, Justin!
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PostSubject: Re: What security do you use?   Sun May 08, 2016 2:10 pm

Proudtexson wrote:
I don't use any security. I am 76 and prostate cancer survivor. Not much need for security. 

That & the shotgun you have behind the door Tex ! ! ! Shunk, shunk, shit drop it & run boys!!!!!!!!!!!!! hyst
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