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PostSubject: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeSun Mar 31, 2013 9:19 pm

[img]New Tyre 2013-03-31183833[/img] Decided to go for the Avon Cobra front tyre,have done nearly two hundred miles on it now and am very happy with it,the one on the left is the old Avon Venom.Only time will tell.
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeSun Mar 31, 2013 10:11 pm

Nice looking tyre Alfie, it looks sportbike ish and should give plenty of grip New Tyre 3498837457
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeSun Mar 31, 2013 10:18 pm

Does look like a good'n New Tyre 184121345
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 11:41 am

My thoughts as well Sim when I went to pick it up thought "is this my wheel" must say Avon recommend them as a replacement for the Venom,but is that sales talk.At the moment feels great,and I have loads more confidence with the extra tread.
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 6:58 pm

I think that has got to be sales patter because the Venom are still listed on their site. If they were recommending them as a replacement that would surly only be if they had been discontinued?
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 7:34 pm

Looking on the Avon site, I think the Cobra is the more sporty version of cruiser tyre? they still do both Cobra and Venom which is a good thing as it gives us more choice, It'll be good to see what you think of it over time, as then it will give a more accurate idea as to grip levels and wear against the Venom.

ps the Venom seems to have a different tread pattern now? more sporty looking.
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 8:16 pm

So if the Venom is aimed at cruisers and the Cobra is aimed at sportier bikes, would that mean a softer but faster wearing compound on the Cobra but more grippy?
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 8:26 pm

Possibly Crash, I think I read somewhere the Cobra is a dual compound tyre though, that would mean it had a hard centre line (for durability) and softer edges for more grip.
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 8:39 pm

Aren't all bike tyres at least a dual compound, some I think are tipple compound now. Sounds like a good move to go for a sportier like Alfie has than a standard cruiser tyre, much better to possibly loose a bit of wear if you can gain a softer and stickier tyre in the process
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 9:23 pm

Just had a look on the Avon site and found this quite interesting, when you put in the bike it come up with this recommendation. Both cobra and venom to be fitted. Cobra for the front and Venom for the rear

Front Tyre
Cobra
Pressure front:
2.3 bar (33psi)
Front size:
MT90B16 74H

Rear Tyre
Venom
Pressure rear:
2.5 bar (36psi)
Rear size:
170/80B15 83H
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 9:27 pm

Dunno Crash? I was under the impression they made single compound tyre's and dual compound, the latter only being on sale over the last few years and mainly for sports bikes, The idea being that they're like a standard tyre for upright riding (majority of the wear) and softer on the sides when it comes to bends, The recommendation by Avon might be because your more likely to lose the front end on a cruiser? rather than spin up the back wheel.
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 9:31 pm

I don't know either New Tyre 2740622253
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 1:22 pm

Very interesting reading,as you say Sim I will see after a period of time,must say went on recommendation from bike shop and Avon,the only criteria I gave was I wanted to keep the Avon Venom rear tyre.I thank Sim and CC for your comments.
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 6:32 pm

Looks like when they recomended the Cobra for the front it wasn't just sales patter, it was the correct information given. Thats nice to know that the people you are going to are actually properly informed
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 9:18 pm

You have made a good point there CC, we only have the one dealership between us and Chester 15miles apart,feel a bit privileged,getting right info from them.The shop is called Marriott Motorcycles Birkenhead..
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 9:50 pm

captain crash wrote:
Just had a look on the Avon site and found this quite interesting, when you put in the bike it come up with this recommendation. Both cobra and venom to be fitted. Cobra for the front and Venom for the rear

Front Tyre
Cobra
Pressure front:
2.3 bar (33psi)
Front size:
MT90B16 74H

Rear Tyre
Venom
Pressure rear:
2.5 bar (36psi)
Rear size:
170/80B15 83H

CC ...... That's exactly what the local guy fitted to mine, even though I asked him for a set
of Cobras, front and rear, so I guess that's ok then. *Rides free, without that nagging doubt again* New Tyre 881924
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeWed Apr 03, 2013 4:50 pm

Always glad to help Badger, Alfies topic has opened up some good info here
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeWed Apr 03, 2013 7:25 pm

Got a reply from Avon ...............

Hi Glyn,

Our recommended fitment for a Suzuki C800 2005> is a MT90B16 Cobra front and 170/80B15 Venom rear.

Both of these tyres are Bias belted as denoted by the inclusion of a
letter 'B' within the notation and these are fine to be fitted together.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Ash Vowles
Motorcycle Design Engineer
AVowles@coopertire.com
www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeWed Apr 03, 2013 9:26 pm

Good reply there Badger,makes you feel a lot better,always good coming from the manufacturer,especialy in writing.
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PostSubject: Re: New Tyre   New Tyre Icon_minitimeWed Apr 03, 2013 9:41 pm

Yes ... I was out on the bike when we had a bit of sunshine, going around the roundabouts thinking .... Hmmmmm......
.....haha.. you can't help it when doubt is in your head can you? All is well though.
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