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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:03 am

Looking good Martin I hope you get things sorted, I don't know if this makes any difference to the carb settings (jets) But I'm pretty sure your bike is an import ? It's a lot louder than the stock UK model with no mods to the exhaust, plus when you look at the bike, it's got reflectors on the sides which isn't a UK requirement and only seen on overseas models.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion    Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Cheers Dave & Sim yes my bike is an american inport & i was thinking along those lines as the exhaust is louder than the brits just a shame
i can't find any kits in the uk looks like heading over the pond and getting stung by the p.office again. Dave how do i resize the pics?
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:43 pm

smart wrote:
Cheers
Dave & Sim yes my bike is an american inport & i was thinking along those lines as the exhaust is louder than the brits just a shame
i can't find any kits in the uk looks like heading over the pond and getting stung by the p.office again.
Dave how do i resize the pics?
Copy the IMG Code, not the IMG Thumb Code.

Give them a ring at http://www.customcruisers.com I am sure he does jet kits.
Also for reference the filter we have used is known as a "Typhoon Tornado".
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion    Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:50 pm

Cheers for that Dave i'll give them a call and see if they can help
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:28 pm

When I washed my bike today I put a bag over the filter to stop any water getting in it, I'm not sure this is necessary ? I just remember my old 125 with a K&N on it spluttering and farting after being washed, that was right on the back of the carb though.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:02 pm

Makes sense to cover it, why get soapy cleaning fluids on it when you dont need to
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:04 pm

I would cover whilst cleaning as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:01 pm

Hi Martin, How did you go on with the jets ?
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:06 pm

cover it while washing it.........good idea but what happens when your out and it rains
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion    Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:16 pm

Hi Sim update found a local company with a dyno rolling road rejetted to a 160 jet the largest they had in stock still running shite got a 180 jet on order will let you know the out come when their fitted!!
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:22 pm

cover it while washing it.........good idea but what happens when your out and it rains

We break down! It's oiled up so it shouldn't matter unless it's absolutely bouncing down? in which case I'd be hiding under a bridge or something You can get waterproof breathable K&N covers, but which one would fit I don't know :what1:

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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:24 pm

simbo what oil did you use, have to check k&n web site for covers
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:21 pm

doobie wrote:
simbo what oil did you use, have to check k&n web site for covers

I used K&N filter oil, Although I can't see rain being a problem really? I only covered it when washing the bike because detergents in the cleaners break oil down and I'm more than generous with the hose pipe when rinsing off.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-Air-Filter-Oil-Cleaner-Kit-99-5000EU-/110954348000?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d564fde0
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion    Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:51 pm

Just to update went back to have my bike rejetted even after fitting a 180 jet it's still not getting enough fuel i've put the origonal jets back in i'll
have a play about with it and see if i can get it better, or it's back to the stock filter
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:17 pm

I don't understand why you would put the smaller stock jets back in if you are still not getting enough fuel with a 180. So now at least you are getting even less fuel. Apart from that if you are not getting enough fuel to serve that filter from 180 then your issue is not the jet, its that fuel is being restricted before the jet. A 180 is huge, sounds to me like your carbs need a proper clean and a fuel filter change.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion    Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:27 pm

Dave i put the origonal jet back because i'm antisipating going back to stock filter never thought it might be the fuel filter will have a look when time allows, with the 180 jet it was still popping & farting & would'nt give a good enough reading on the rolling road to set it up luckily they did'nt charge me because they could'nt sort it
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:47 pm

Out of curiosity, have you considered temporarily blocking the pair valve breather to see if your popping and farting goes away?
Still look at cleaning the fuel system out though, a 180 is massive so if you are not getting enough fuel, which the tuner would definitely be able to tell you, you are clogged up.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion    Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:10 pm

ill have to check the system Dave llike you said origoinaly you were suprised i was having to rejet bike runs almost ok on 3/4 choke even on the 130 jet and half the filter blocked off i was thinking of going down the foam route to see if that would improve things but now i'll check the fuel system first cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:27 pm

From what has been described here I would agree, crap in the system slowing down flow somewhere
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:25 pm

Mr Intruder could I ask if you have completed your earlier suggestion of fitting the second filter on the near side? I have recently ordered the recommended twin spiked breather kit and would consider fitting the second cone if you have completed your usual description. I will need to do this before the re-jetting is performed as I will also be ordering new pipes as well, although which ones as yet is to be seen. Could I ask if you have you considered spinning the filters to face backwards if there is indeed any issue with rain being forced into an open filter? As I rarely ride my bike in the rain unless caught in a shower this doesn't really concern me a great deal.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:50 pm

Sorry Ken but as yet I have not had a chance to fit the 2nd filter.
You only need the pipes and filter fitted before the re-jet. Remember the 2nd filter is only a dummie.
No need to even think of spinning the cones unless you would prefer the look, simply because they are designed to be open to elements. As long as the filters are maintained and oiled correctly and at regular intervals, no rain or water issue will arise as they are made for this particular purpose.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:57 pm

Many thanks, information much appreciated. I will look forward to your update.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:08 pm

My apologies for not reading thoroughly. I have just noticed Sim's conversation with regards to water higher up on this very page.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:57 pm

No worries Ken, we are here to help.  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:39 pm

If any one would like to sell me there second filter. Give me a shout please.. TY
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:58 am

would the second filter actually fit?
because its ment for the right side?
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:04 am

No it would not fit, it is used as a dummie only and would be made to fit and bfixing brackets made up and pair valve possibly moved.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:57 pm

Crack on then davey, get the job done  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:50 pm

Time for modifications I have, inclination for modifications I don't. I will crack on when I feel well enough to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:14 pm

Thanks for this excellent instructable with the pictures and tips, most helpful whilst fitting mine today.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:43 am

finnaly got my cone filter..
Will start whit assembly today!!
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:14 pm

Nice one Marko, they look cool and what a great price  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:41 pm

Ok... Got the package! Took only 4 days fro hongkong!
Price?.... 118eur 
Started to put things together
Will the iron sticks that are in the package hold the filter? I am a bit sceptic...

I already assembeled all but I have to rethink the supporting part..
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:57 pm

First pic...

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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:06 pm

Looks ace Marko, love the all black look    
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:37 pm

Nice job! They look good in black  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:23 am

Must agree, love the black.  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:46 pm

Whole bike...

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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:07 pm

Looking goooooooood love the black filter  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:00 pm

Nice!! Looking good  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:59 pm

That looks great.  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:23 pm

Just ordered set of cones. Has anyone put dummy one on left side of bike yet.?
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:36 am

That was my plan but I have not got around to it but it is on the cards over the next few weeks now.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:04 am

I changed mounting filter the way Mr Intruder did it. With 2 metal pieces.
Because the filter is heavy I wasn't sure that the bottom mounting screw would hold
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:11 pm

How did you do it them?
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:44 am

mare1411 wrote:
I changed mounting filter the way Mr Intruder did it. With 2 metal pieces.
Because the filter is heavy I wasn't sure that the bottom mounting screw would hold
It would only not hold it if the mounting bracket's used were not up to it. They way I have it fitted looks good & will hold that small amount of weight without any issue at all.I it was used to hang the weight from diagonally then I may & I only mean possibly would have given a different mounting option a thought but ony if I was possibly not happy after using a thread lock on the bolt. However as the filter induction pipe was more than happy to hold the filter whilst it was hanging freely from it, the reasonably size (size-weight ratio) of a horizontally mounted bolt was more than up to the job in question.

I would however agree with Captain Crashes question, "How have you mounted the filter"?
If a member feels that they need to tell others that they disagree with the way that a job is done and that they have done it differently. They should at least post a detailed explanation of what the have done instead. So that members can decide between what we actually know has the ability to do the job and another option that we have not been told about.
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Tue May 06, 2014 7:47 am

sory, been on vacation..
i wil post some pictures and description later.
I choosed a "combination" of both mounting described in this forum - with two metal steel holding the filter from the "higher" position and a metal stick from the lower bolt
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Thu May 08, 2014 8:28 pm

Good on you Marko, if it gives you or anyone else piece of mind to do it that way then great.  
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Tue May 13, 2014 7:17 pm

Fitted. Just need to clean up brackets and buy some decent bolts, used nuts off old filter." />
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PostSubject: Re: Chromed Spiked Cone Air Filter From Suzuki M109 - C800 Conversion   Tue May 13, 2014 7:23 pm

Spikey!  
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